reagan challenged the now new but old republican establishment headed by then- president ford, i was involved in that. i remember talking to the republican national committee, and a good friend of mine said, "there's not much i can do because we are going to have to roll over all of you. how do you think i got here? i came in with the goldwater people in 1964. what took you so long?" we have to accept the fact that when new people come in, they want a voice. the reagan people came in, and today, many of them are part of the party establishment. party establishments always eventually seem to act like the old ones. remember pat robinson -- when he ran for president, evangelicals began to stream into the party. ofwas said that a meeting robertson supporters resembled nothing so much as the bar scene in "star wars." they came anyway, and many of them today are part of the new old republican establishment.